Sabian's 17-inch AA Holy China is loud. Accordian to Sabian it's one of the loudest cymbals they've ever made, and that is probably thanks in no small part to the fact that it was designed in collaboration with Chad Smith, of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. This china has a slightly raised profile to give it a higher pitch, and as the smallest member of the family, this 17-inch model is logically not quite as loud as its larger siblings while also being highest in pitch. Naturally, it does have the same specific pattern of small holes that makes the sound slightly airier and allows the cymbal to react quickly, regardless of how hard you're hitting it.